Doubtfull - some things just need to self-destruct... maybe this is one that will....[hoping out loud]
Jeff
an elder told me the book is jehovah's latest provision to cleanse his organization.. he said soon all people that have drifted, inactives, and others baptized and not complying with the biblical mandates for a jw, will be visited and given an option to shape up or ship out.. he said that if the person refuses the help offered by the congregation they'll be notified of the date of disfellowshipping and given time to appeal the decision.. he was so happy stating that this way jehovah's organization was preparing for the final clean-up before armageddon.
he sounded so convincing that it almost made perfect sense what he was saying.
i got goose bumps listening to his reasoning.. dy
Doubtfull - some things just need to self-destruct... maybe this is one that will....[hoping out loud]
Jeff
an elder told me the book is jehovah's latest provision to cleanse his organization.. he said soon all people that have drifted, inactives, and others baptized and not complying with the biblical mandates for a jw, will be visited and given an option to shape up or ship out.. he said that if the person refuses the help offered by the congregation they'll be notified of the date of disfellowshipping and given time to appeal the decision.. he was so happy stating that this way jehovah's organization was preparing for the final clean-up before armageddon.
he sounded so convincing that it almost made perfect sense what he was saying.
i got goose bumps listening to his reasoning.. dy
Maybe it will be a new line-item on the annual report.
% Increase in those Df'd for weakness
% Increase in those Df'd for wickedness
% Increase in those Df'd for drifting
% Increase in those Df'd for fading
% Increase in those Df'd for inactivity
% Increase in those Df'd for meeting inattendance
% Increase in those Df'd for low contributions
% Increase in those Df'd for low hours
% Increase in those Df'd for not marking the paragraphs at the watchtower study
% Increase in those Df'd for not commenting at the watchtower study
% Increase in those Df'd for thinking independently
This may be the new way to 'get the numbers up'
Jeff
i just received an email that said mj attended the memorial in solvang last night.
he attended with his mom and dad and also his son.
this info was forwarded to me via 2 others but i saw the original email so i think it's probably true.
They will just go to court and say he can't be convicted without two eyewitness!
Jeff
i just received an email that said mj attended the memorial in solvang last night.
he attended with his mom and dad and also his son.
this info was forwarded to me via 2 others but i saw the original email so i think it's probably true.
Wonder if the 'faithful' avoided him - he is Da'd.
There may be a special 'celebrity clause' in that rule - not sure!
Jeff
i remember being told if you partake of the emblems and not be of the anointed the bad things will happen you or at the very least christ will be real made at you.
i have always believed the witness's to be presumptuous on their part of this issue to make such a statement, who are they to say who should and who should not.
does not the bible/christ, say to do this always in remembrance of me, concerning his followers are we not his followers?
In reading Jesus words I find no clear indication that all should not partake.
This is year number two in which I and wifey will not go... but I just bot a couple of good wines and we might have a glass of that.
Jeff
i have no guilt for not attending for 2 years in a row.
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Hey Tony - are we brothers? I see a family resemblence here!!!
Jeff
i received this email from a friend of a friend:.
'comments made by brother lett at morning worship today.. the comments were about the work we have of bearing witness of the truth.
" again, the angels make note of it.. we knock at the fifth house and again no one is home.
bttt
Someone asked how old Steve was - I think he might be early 60's or so. No older than that. He served our circuit [and I actually considered him a nice guy and a friend at the time] in the late 80's - and I think he was maybe 45 at the time.
I knew his dad too - didn't know he had been rich - you wouldn't have known it by his demeanor. Steve cried when he privately related the passing of his father by cancer.
Some of the paint we throw on people is a little strong at times, don't you think? Not defending the WTS at all - they cost me 4 decades of my life - but Mark and Steve did try to do what they thought was right - many of us were right alongside them for decades.
I would welcome him to my home for a meal if he showed up - but I hope he doesn't fart.
Jeff
i know about the guardian articles, and the un press release, ect.
but did any major paper carry an article that i could see the archive to?
i suspect that if such happened i would know about it already, but just in case i missed it.
bttt
i know about the guardian articles, and the un press release, ect.
but did any major paper carry an article that i could see the archive to?
i suspect that if such happened i would know about it already, but just in case i missed it.
Yes min that is kind of what I meant - mainstream American papers that would carry weight here in this country. I don't know anything about the Guardian paper - is that a big one in UK? No offense intended just don't know.
Jeff
has anyone on the forum been involved with the international cultic studies association (icsa) that was formerly american family foundation (aff)?
i receive mailings from them, and it looks like an interesting group.
they are an ?interdisciplinary network of academicians, professionals, former group members, and families who study and educate the public about social-psychological influence and control, authoritarianism, and zealotry in cultic groups, alternative movements, and other environments.?
Thanx JAVA for the website - I will take a look at it later. Thanx hadenuf for posting the article too.
Jeff